Miller was so important to Watch Tower that he was referred to in its pages as Father Miller till the mid 1920s. And to think we used to jump all over Catholics at the door for addressing priests that way.
Len
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False premise/ self-contradiction / intellectual dishonesty / Willful stupidity = Watch Tower anointing
by Terry inwe've all heard the true story.. william miller, a baptist lay preacher and war hero, carefully worked out the 2nd coming of jesus using the bible and chronology.. he was invited to speak and explain his warnings and proof in many churches.
tens of thousands heard and believed and waited.. nothing happened.
the great big nothing was called "the great disappointment.".
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What's the BIGGEST WEAK LINK in the WTS Armor?
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is it the pedophile thing, ngo, generation change, blood issue?
what do you think it is?.
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FatFreek 2005
And lest we forget those Overlapping Generations which have single-handedly stimulated the brains of honest-hearted ones to make their exit or begin their fade, here's a reminder:
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The Watchtower: Does This Game Of Jenga Ever End?
by metatron inthere are a great many fine posts here - and some from 8 years back - detailing how apathetic and perfunctory the organization has become.. and yet, it still stands, doesn't it?.
is there any point to be reached in this apparent 'experiment in sociology' in which they wake up and say 'screw this?
' if they crammed 10 congregations into one hall and stole the money, would any witnesses wake up?
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Amen -- great piece of writing.
Len
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What's the BIGGEST WEAK LINK in the WTS Armor?
by Black Man in.
is it the pedophile thing, ngo, generation change, blood issue?
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FatFreek 2005
To rory-ks -- what a great essay. How could someone so eloquent have become wrapped up in the WTS. I think it's because there are a few -- like you -- who enter the kingdom hall doorway and refuse to hang their brains on the coat rack. Their grey matter remain active while sitting and listening to the droning and boringly repetetive drivel. There's no telling how many of those seats are occupied with those who've already begun to fade but for family sake continue to pretend. Smart phones and tablets help them convert the time into something a bit more constructive.
To Phizzy -- go ahead and make our day.
Len
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What's the BIGGEST WEAK LINK in the WTS Armor?
by Black Man in.
is it the pedophile thing, ngo, generation change, blood issue?
what do you think it is?.
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The New WT Headquarters and APOSTATES
by suavojr init is amazing how bethel is the best at making apostates!
i wonder how many new up and coming apostates the new wt headquarters will generate?.
what nice and fresh stories will surface from the secluded and private wt hub?
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FatFreek 2005
Got you covered, Tiktaalik. Your handle brings the number to 85.
Len
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Sodomite resurrection flip-flops -- recent WT confession?
by FatFreek 2005 inwithin the last few years i understand watchtower has issued a concession (no apology) of minor proportion.
they don't admit to the avalanche of some 8 sequential positions (yes, no, yes, no, ...) of, "will the sodomites receive a resurrection?".
i think they admit to about three of them.
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FatFreek 2005
Hi Splash, your list looks exciting. Since they are all 1988 and so we can confirm their sequence can you please list the month and day on the following?
1988 NO Revelation - Its Grand Climax p.273
1988 YES You Can Live Forever... p.179 (Old Edition)
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Watchtowers Prophesy Date's DON'T ADD UP! .
by Londo111 insnarky's version is much more entertaining:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqluxvfvalm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7030iiabu.
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FatFreek 2005
Yes, you must use the 360 (lunar) day year to argue with them. You still win, however, based on the above post.
Watchtower, 1960, 4/15 p. 251 par. 18 Part 36—“Your Will Be Done on Earth”
The 1,290 days must be treated from the standpoint of the lunar calendar. Hence divine prophecy treats a month as being thirty days long, on the average.Len
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Watchtowers Prophesy Date's DON'T ADD UP! .
by Londo111 insnarky's version is much more entertaining:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqluxvfvalm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7030iiabu.
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FatFreek 2005
"I look forward to any results you have."
Here, Londo, is how I calculate using a 360 day year and you can try it on your Excel (or LibreOffice or OpenOffice machine).
Place the following into a single cell: =DAYS360("1/25/1919","8/25/1922",1) with the cell formatted as Number. (you may substitute "true" for that value of 1)
That cell will return a value of 1290. However, that the Cedar Point convention didn't begin on 8/25/1922 as this formula uses. Bad news for the Watchtower apologist who is hoping that a 360 day year will redeem Watchtower's calculation accuracy.
As a different check, plug the following into a single cell: =DAYS360("1/25/1919","9/5/1922",1)
There, using both Watchtower beginning and start dates you will see a calculated value of 1300, again not the 1290 that Watchtower likes either, this time using Cedar Point's beginning date of September 5, 1922.
Here the critic might say that we're nitpicking. I say we're not the ones who've made those crazy mathematical statements. They should've known that math is unforgiving -- it either is or it isn't what you'd like it to be.
Len
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The New WT Headquarters and APOSTATES
by suavojr init is amazing how bethel is the best at making apostates!
i wonder how many new up and coming apostates the new wt headquarters will generate?.
what nice and fresh stories will surface from the secluded and private wt hub?
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FatFreek 2005
I haven't posted this link in a long time. It's to a free google document that lists identity handles of all known ex-bethelites that have joined this forum and have posted here. Some are CO's and there may be a DO on the list -- I don't remember.
Call my attention to ones not on the list and I will include them.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UfMFMrD-qVAfHrsblwsJlUqfq4QPzqqvt_gF-UtlwVA/edit?usp=sharing
Len Miller
